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starywary
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05-09-10, 06:45 PM (EST)
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"good in school-could it still be bpd?"
 
   I did see a post that mentioned something similar to this issue, but I am in the process of getting a diagnosis for my child. She is 6 1/2, and so far has been diagnosed with ADHD -NOS. The new aprn we recently started seeing said she doesn't want to jump and diagnose bpd, but she definitly saw symptoms of ADHD and so for now we are trying a medication trial of COncerta. She just upped the dose to 27mg from 18 after I reported I didn't see any changes. Hannah (my daughter) has also been on ritalin and dextramphetimine(sp?) Neither produced any changes at all. She is extremely impulsive, gets easily agitated and aggressive. SHe seems like she is running on a motor, and gets excessively giddy and silly, her mood has been described as manic. Her father was bipolar. She also makes sexual comments and acts explicitly sometimes, which can be very shocking and uncomfortable, there has been no issue of abuse. There are more symptoms, in general she is loud, impulsive, and hyperactive. But at school she is the complete opposite. In fact, her teachers were shocked to find out that she acts the way she does. They just couldn't picture her acting like that. For them, she has no problem sitting still, listening, being quiet, doing what she is asked, and being in control of herself. I can't imagine her like that. At home it's more like, well, for instance as I was typing this she asked for another corn dog and said if I had one too she would take a knife and plunge it into herself and die.
Sorry for babbling, but my question is, is it possible for her to do well in school and be in control and still be bp? The APRN questions whether or not someone with bpd can "turn it off" when they want to. I need help !


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Daunnaadmin
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05-10-10, 10:25 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: good in school-could it still be bpd?"
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It doesn't seem "logical" that a child can behave well at school but not at home, but of course, all of us — grownups included — tend to "behave" well in public and come home and kick the proverbial dog, growl at family members, and either go into a frenzy of housekeeping to get rid of our tension, slump into a do-nothing funk and let the dishes pile up to the ceiling.

Take a look at http://www.bipolarchild.com/Newsletters/ , which are authored by Janice and Demitri Papols. In the "In Honor of Mothers..." newsletter, thy note that a child with bipolar disorder " often does well in the outside world, only to return to the safe harbor of home to rage at a parent (most often the mother), leading to the suspicions of outsiders that "Something must be going on in that household, and with that woman;" or "She seems so nice, but you never really know people;" or "He can keep it together at school, so he must be a very manipulative kid." In "24: A Day in the Life," they describe how kids with bipolar disorder may have disastrous school experiences — or — "some parents don't have to worry during the school day, as their children seem to be able to keep things together in the outside world and save all their pent-up frustration and anger for the mother when they get home." The sections from 3:00 on go on to describe and explain the contrasting behavior at home.

Hope this helps. It's always good to have a doctor who's thorough and thoughtful, but it's also important to work with a doctor that gives you a sense of confidence in arriving at a diagnosis and treatment. It shouldn't take months to notice whether or not Ritalin or Concerta are making a positive difference. When we started my child on Ritalin, her doctor told us to start with mini-dose, and if we didn't notice any difference after for or 5 days, to increase a little; the point was that different kids need different doses (it's not size/weight related), so we might have to continue increasing to reach a therapeutic dose — or decide that it wasn't the right med for her. In our case, it took 8 days to fight the "right" dose. If you aren't confident in your child's doctor, see a second opinion.

Daunna Minnich
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