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05-22-10, 06:50 PM (EST)
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""additional information" in an IEP"
 
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My daughter is 11, 5th grade. Dx BP and PDD. I was just told that she doesn't qualify for any summer social/emotional support through the school due to the fact that she has not shown regression after school vacations. I am okay with the school not providing this (since they seem to be lacking in social skills themselves).

However, since her last hospitalization 1 1/2 years ago, she has attended a therapeutic program provided by DMH afterschool and during all school vacations - THAT is the reason for her not regressing.

All I asked is that the school somewhere reference (additional information) that she does need ongoing social/emotional support and it is currently being provided by another agency. They refused.

Their wording in the IEP simply says that she does not show social/emotional impairment and therefore does not qualify (That, in and of itself, doesn't make sense as her IEP classification is ED; not to mention, at the age of 11, she has never had a friend, never been invited to a playdate, never been invited to a birthday party...)

Any suggestions? Is there any way I can get the school just to acknowledge this other agency's very significant work?

Mom to
DS - 12 BP, ADHD, cognitive delays
DS - 11 BP, PDD


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Daunnaadmin
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05-23-10, 01:30 PM (EST)
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1. "RE:"
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The school's "does not show social/emotional impairment" wording is an attempt to say "no problem exists, therefore, the school is not obligated to address this issue, much less provide services." Perhaps they're afraid the DMH services will end someday and you would then ask for similar services through the IEP.

"Is there any way I can get the school just to acknowledge this other agency's very significant work?"

Yes. Under IDEA, parents are equal members of the IEP team. That means the IEP should reflect your agenda items, your concerns, your suggestions, your objections, etc. Since the school district did not include your input (other than in an oblique, distorted, and inaccurate way), you have the right to correct the record by attaching a statement to the IEP. Something like this might do:

-----

Parent Attachment
to the IEP dated (date) for (child's name)

During the IEP discussion of Extended School Year services, Schoolname said Kiddo did not need ESY services because regression has not been a problem. I did not request ESY. However, I did request that Kiddo's need for social/emotional/behavioral support be acknowledged, along with a statement that she has not regressed in these areas during school vacations due to the ongoing, year-round support she has been receiving from another agency.

Schoolname refused to include my input regarding outside service and instead includes a statement on page # of Kiddo's IEP saying "she does not show social/emotional impairment and therefore does not qualify for services." This statement is problematic for the following reasons:

1. Kiddo was diagnosed with Pervasive Developmental Disorder in (year) and Bipolar Disorder in (year). (Indicate school impact such as: Her IEPs have included accommodations that reduce anxiety and help prevent behavioral flare-ups attributable to her disabilities. Teachers report that Kiddo does not participate actively/appropriately in discussions and/or group work. Teachers report other students tease Kiddo and Kiddo cries, hits, etc. Kiddo has had approximate # of absences/tardies this school year due to emotional/behavioral issues. Teachers sometimes send home notes, refer her to the office, or send her home for emotional or behavioral issues. Kiddo requires the support of an aide, in part for social/emotional/behavioral support. Kiddo is placed in a self-contained classroom for other than strictly academic reasons.

2. Kiddo complains that other children at school, on the bus, (and elsewhere?) tease her, push her, run away from her, ostracize her. At age 11, Kiddo has never had a friend, never been invited to a playdate, never been invited to a birthday party because she does not know how to interact appropriately with her peers.

3. Since Month, 2008, Kiddo has received social skills training and counseling through the Dept. of Mental Health: # hours/week when school is in session and # hours/week during school breaks (winter, spring, and summer?). DMH determined Kiddo's eligibility for this program based, in part, on Kiddo's social, emotional, and behavioral issues at school.

4. Kiddo qualifies for special education services under Emotional Disturbance eligibility criteria. Given this designation and social, emotional, and behavioral impacts of PDD/Bipolar Disorder cited above, I do not see any logic to Schoolname's assertion of "no impairment."

I believe that an IEP should report disagreements and do so accurately. The IEP statement on page # denies impairment and need for services as if it is a team view, while in fact, it represents Schoolname's opinion and omits my view. Omitting my request to have my input included in the IEP negates my right, under IDEA, to participate as an equal member of the IEP team.

Given that my daughter's social, emotional, and behavioral deficits are apparent to her teachers and classmates at school as well as to family and community members, I conclude that future IEP teams need to include members who are quite familiar with Kiddo's daily struggles with social, emotional, and behavioral impairments and the impact they have on her at school and in the community also the implications for her future learning, employment, and independent living.

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You would need to write a short letter to the special ed director or administrator in charge of the IEP requesting that this parent attachment be stapled to your daughter's IEP. (They shouldn't argue. As an equal participant in an IEP meeting, you are entitled to have your input included in the IEP, and this is your means of correcting their failure to do so.) This letter should be either hand-delivered to a school secretary or mailed certified with receipt. If you deliver it in person, take a second copy and ask that it be dated stamped and signed/initialed for receipt. If you mail it certified, keep the green receipt that the P.O. will mail to you after delivery. Then, after a few weeks (or when school resumes), ask to see your child's school records.

More thoughts on this to come....

Daunna Minnich
Moderator, JBRF Education Forum


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   Excellent.
My only problem is that, according to the school, there are NEVER any problems - no one is mean to her, no one teases her, nothing - which, of course we don't believe. In fact, I received a phone call on a Monday from the principal saying that she wasn't behaving on the bus, but then received a call from the sped teacher on Friday (this was, apparently, the 'team meeting' phone call) who said that her bus behavior has been exceptional. (At the time I just laughed it off as it seems no one there knows what anyone else is doing). The director of her DMH funded afterschool program has come to all of our team meetings and said that, among the 10 children in their program, my dd has the most problems socially. (The school officials kind of "poo-poo'ed" everything she said).
But your sample letter is really excellent!!

Mom to
DS - 12 BP, ADHD, cognitive delays
DS - 11 BP, PDD


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   Update. I requested a team meeting and received about three phone calls in about 5 minutes. I spoke with the SPED director. 1) According to her, a team meeting can be held with a phone call for an IEP amendment per DOE. I expressed regret that I was not informed of this in advance, that I had thought it was a casual phone call, but now I know.

2) She said that she would rewrite the amendment to reflect that my daughter has attended a DMH funded program for the past 1 1/2 years afterschool and during every school vacation to support her social/emotional needs.

If this change is actually made in the new amendment, I guess I am satisfied for now

Mom to
DS - 12 BP, ADHD, cognitive delays
DS - 11 BP, PDD


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Daunnaadmin
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05-26-10, 12:48 PM (EST)
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Getting the sped director to add an amendment acknowledging your daughter's needs and DMH's considerable support is a victory. But just because you got what you wanted doesn't mean the school is giving you what they should be providing. I think you need to start right now and work over the summer to build a case for more school support.

DMH would not have agreed to take your child as a client unless they saw serious issues in need of intervention. You are pleased with the DMH services your daughter receives. But are they helping enough? After all, your daughter still doesn't have a friend, no playdates, no birthday invitations. And she thinks she gets teased at school. And I'm sure there's more.

Here's what I'm guessing: DMH does its thing and the kids in the program practice on each other. That's good. Does DMH keep you aware of what skills she is practicing? Do they give you suggestions on how to reinforce things at home? Do you see evidence that she is carrying the skills over into everyday life at home or in the community? What about communication between DMH and school so that DMH skills are supported by teachers/aides at in class, in the lunchroom, on the playground? If you do not see signs that the skills your daughter is practicing at DMH are being "generalized," or extended, to other real-world environments, then has she really learned the skill? (If a kid can do math at school but not at the grocery store, then has he really learned math? Same principle applies to social skills.)

If you aren't familiar with term "generalization," it's a buzzword that should become part of your discussions with DMH and the IEP team. Just because a skill (academic or otherwise) is "taught," "practiced," and "mastered" in rather contrived IEP or clinical treatment settings doesn't mean a child can extend the skill to settings outside the classroom or therapy room when a teacher or therapist is not watching, waiting, measuring, and saying "good job!" Here's an article to share with your IEP and treatment teams that calls for making generalization an important part of the discussiuon from Day 1:

http://www.pediastaff.com/resources-the-importance-of-generalization-of-skills--july-2009


I'm sure your IEP team is interested in your daughter's academic needs. Kids with PDD are likely to have trouble understanding figurative language and idioms. I would imagine the tendency to interpret things literally affects not only spoken language, but reading comprehension as well. (Will that get their attention?) Is your daughter receiving speech/language services at school? Has she had a recent speech/language evaluation that focuses on social skills and social pragmatics? If not, put in a written request for an evaluation. Here are some interesting reads:

     http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/irca/communication/LanguagePathologist.html
http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/irca/communication/challengePrag.html
http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/irca/ftrainpapers.html (left column has lots of topics)

Getting back to the IEP team's denial of social problems, I don't know how much of their "blindness" is deliberate and how much is due to ignorance. Either way, they need to open their eyes and offer help. Check this out:

http://www.massadvocates.org/uploads/ZF/yW/ZFyWYVesivpboW-TXwkQiA/AUTISM-PARENTS-TIPS-12-19-08-final-except-formatiing-_2_.pdf


I think you're going to have to help the team learn to recognize what they're seeing but not understanding. Start with a bit of research before the school year ends. Chat with your daughter's teacher, face-to-face if at all possible, and jot down notes. Questions:

   –  How many friends does Kiddo have at school? What are their names? (Once you know who all her friends are, you can invite them over for play dates, and of course, they'll return the favor. Then everything will be hunky dory outside of school too!)
   –  Who does Kiddo eat with at lunch? Who does she play with or hang out with at recess/lunch? (Names please.) What games do they play? (If teacher doesn't know, ask her who is on duty at those times and can share that information. If no one knows, this is valuable information.
   –  Do kids have free time in class, and if so, what does Kiddo choose to do — and does she do it alone or with others? (Again, names please.)
   –  Does your daughter participate in class discussions voluntarily? Doe she use polite appropriate, tactful language?
   –  How well does she participate in paired or group work? Tactful, polite, etc.?
   –  Kiddo says kids tease her or are mean to her. Have you, Ms. Teacher, noticed that? If not, do you, Ms. Teacher, think she's misinterpreting what other kids say or do?
   –   Concerns/advice for middle school next year?
You might also take a list of some specific types of communication/social difficulties that are common for kids with PDD and ask the teacher if she's noticed any examples of those characteristics.

Chat with your daughter, also, to find out how the teacher's answers square with her perceptions. What does she say about teasing or how other kids treat her? If she doesn't offer up info, have her look at a class photo or list of names and ask her who she likes/doesn't like. Jot that down, along with any little comments. Ask her to rank each classmate on a friendliness scale, something like "friendly to me, unfriendly, or in between" and jot down what she says. For the most positive responses, ask if she ever plays with that child at recess.

If your child's perception of things differs from the teacher's, you will want to bring this data to a future IEP meeting. Make it "official-looking." Label it "Parent Attachment # ___" and give it a title like "Kiddo''s Perceptions of Interactions with Classmates," date it, and include the data you noted. Classmate's names aren't important for this because it's her perceptions that matter. If she and the teacher don't see things the same way, that's evidence that your daughter isn't reading social interactions at school accurately — a deficit in need of correction, right? And if they do see things the same way, then there needs to be an explanation/further evaluation of why everything is hunky dory at school yet your daughter lacks the skills to invite a kid over and why kids choose not to invite her over. (Wouldn't you call that a disconnect. The differences in what you, your daughter, DMH, and the school are seeing need to be reconciled.)


After you've gathered your data and before school starts next fall, send a formal letter to the sped director asking for evaluations in speech language, including social pragmatics, and a functional behavior assessment that observes your daughter's behavior and social skills in multiple settings, with both of these evaluations conducted by professionals experienced in working with students on the spectrum. The letter can be short, with only a couple of sentences to explain why you want assessments at this time. The sped director will probably want to hold an IEP meeting, which is OK, but indicate you don't want to delay the assessment and want the meeting to be held within the first few weeks of the year. (Preferably less than a month, because they'll then take a couple of months to do the assessments). Also ask for a PDD/autism expert to participate. The school psychologist and speech/language pathologist should also be there, and they will be gathering info to to try to figure out what tests to administer. You have the right to meet with them and ask them, test by test, what will this measure? What test will you use to assess _______ (problem)? Make sure the IEP team/evaluators know that your daughter is not generalizing what she's getting at DMH, and you want them to figure out why that's not happening.

Daunna Minnich
Moderator, JBRF Education Forum


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